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September 5, 2008 at 5:26 pm #1435
I happened upon several S30 systems and it clicked it might make a good brain for that pc based robot I always wanted to build. The reason being, small size, no hard drive, very low power (compared even to a VIA), no fans, etc….
This is my first look at thin clients so I am a bit dense in that area. In this case I would be doing away with the client functionality and going standalone. I would probably need to use a USB-flash drive to achieve the full speech I would like. I might also want to do some simple voice recognition. I am an expert with visual studio but have never made applications for CE. I would prefer to use VB for faster development time.
A second thought might be to dump CE and use some form of Linux? Anyone successfully done something like this?
Am I on track thinking this might be Wyse in one form or another? 🙂 Any thoughts you have on any of this would be appreciated.
RobotGuySeptember 5, 2008 at 10:16 pm #13834thinkthinMember
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Make Robots! Well thats a first for the forum!
You can load any OS you like to these units, its just a matter of having the disk space and memory. With the CE units the memory is most likely only 64MB so that is going to limit the OS types you can run. If you have newer S30’s you can buy a RAM DIMM however the older types the RAM is soldered on so its more of a pain.
The flash is also upgradeable as well however if you upgrade the BIOS to 1.5 the unit will boot from USB keys so this may be cheaper to do, download the USB imager on this site to do.
The unit is based on an AMD Geode so have a dig arund for drivers, I would use your own Linix distro rather than the Wyse one,
-TTSeptember 8, 2008 at 8:28 am #13840
Thanks much for the info! Your site is the best resource I have found for these devices.
I was successful in getting Wyse Device Manager up and running. I can connect to the S30 and grab the device configuration. I’m leaning towards using it with the CE OS intact if possible. There are a couple of lightweight Linux versions that may work also like Puppy or DSL.
A couple of questions…
Did you mean BIOS 1.15 or is there a 1.5 version?
I cannot find the binarys for the BIOS updates on the WYSE website?
Is there a way to get/install/use file manager on the Winterm to browse the file system?
The WYSE Device Manager software apparently is a 30 day demo and has limited configuration functionality. Is there another way?
Thanks in advance!
RobotGuySeptember 8, 2008 at 10:53 am #13841thinkthinMember
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Sorry, I mean 1.15.
Just register the license for WDM and it will no longer expire – its a free version but you do need to register.
Let me see if I can help out with a browser…I will PM you,
-TTSeptember 8, 2008 at 3:50 pm #13843
Thanks again TT!
I got it registered successfully. Apparently to use some of the features you need the Enterprise version?
Scouring the web I was unable to find the 1.15 BIOS.
Looking forward to your PM!
Robot GuySeptember 8, 2008 at 5:26 pm #13846ConfGenKeymaster
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you are right that there are more feature in the Enterprise version but none of them are needed in your environment. Or are you looking for a special feature?
CGSeptember 8, 2008 at 8:08 pm #13847
You are right, I didn’t need enterprise. I was successful in updating both CE from 523 to 581 and the BIOS from 1.04 to 1.15. I was unaware the OS and BIOS were bundled together… Works great, just somewhat slower to boot and open new windows. I now see the USB Access icon in the control panel.
Not being familiar with CE, the thing that is kicking my butt now is trying to figure out how to access my USB flash disk from the term. I can’t find a file manager or file explorer. I tried to use IE locally but it hangs. Help!! How do I browse the file system from CE?
Also, if it works out as planned I will develop a program using Visual Studio ported to CE and I need to figure out how to get it to the term and how to make it run automatically on startup. I suspect that it can be done with WDM without reflashing everything?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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