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Hi, we have a load of Wyse 5070 and want to see if we can convert them to ThinOS as they are going to be cloud-managed soon – Does anyone have any experience of this can we just image them via a USB tool to a ThinOS build from the same model version???
Yes I have successfully converted couple of our 5070 units. You have to enter the BIOS “F2” and check the box “wipe the drive on next boot”. This will fully wipe the drive of the WES OS. Create a ThinOS bootable drive by using Dell’s USB Imaging Tool. Once you have a ThinOS Bootable, go into the commandsXml.xml file on the USB and find all the files with “FFFFFFFF” and replace them with “00000000”. Save the file and you should be ready to install your ThinOS successfuly.
I more or less the same question / issue. I have some 5070 with Windows 10 IOT, and I want to change them to ThinOS 9.
I went in the BIOS and performed a fill wipe of the harddisk.
After this I created a merlin boot with the Dell’s USB Image Tool, but for some reason, the Thin Client will not boot from the USB Stick. I have tried several USB Sticks, different USB ports, OS_Merlin_v9.0.4024_5070, OS_Merlin_v8.6_710_WTOS_5070_16GB_EN and WIE10_LTSC_2019_UNIFIED_January2022.
note: I did not change all the FFFFFFFF to 00000000 on all sticks. But i’m not sure if this solves the issue.
But non of the USB Sticks even boot, but they are seen by the BIOS.
If i use the same USB Sticks in a non wiped disk, i get a different boot menu. What i also can’t explain. I could not find a lot of information about this type of boot menu.
Does anyone have an idea how to fix it?
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Converting 5070 WES/Thin Linux/Ubuntu devices to ThinOS you will need the following:
- USB tool 3.5
- Download the 5070 2205 merlin image
- Now, here is where you have to pay to play. ThinOS is looking for a BIOS security key, so you have to edit the commmandxml.xml file and search for FFFFFFFF and change it to 00000000.
- Yes, this worked in the past. What’s new is you have to buy a ThinOS Activation License to use ThinOS.
- After you flash the device, and it registers into WMS, it will ask for activation, no ThinOS Activation license no access.
- Also if you have a device without PCoIP, this is how you can now get PCoIP functions.
Hey Jim,
thanks for the clarification!
One thing though: Where/how can I get/order these “ThinOS Activation Licenses”?
Thanks in advance!
Ooookay, I also opened a support ticket with DELL.
Short answer from DELL support: Conversion not possible, I’d have to buy a new device with ThinOS pre-installed. No word about ThinOS Activation Licenses.
What gives?
You can convert devices using the USBFT to ThinOS 2205. You will need to have WMS pro AND the new ThinOS activation license. To get a license contact dell directly for quote and order details.
I would only change all the<mask>FFFFFFFF</mask> to <mask>00000000</mask>.
Changing other fields / security keys could result in a bad conversion.Update
You can now convert Dell Wyse 5070, 5470, and 5470 All-In-One Thin Clients and OptiPlex 3000 Thin Clients Windows 10 IoT to ThinOS 2306 (9.4.2103) using the Conversion Installer and ThinOS Image file.
https://dl.dell.com/FOLDER10258194M/1/ThinOS_2306_9.4.2103_WinIoT_Conversion.zip is intended for customers who want to convert Windows 10 IoT to ThinOS 2306 (9.4.2103)
Convert Windows 10 IoT to ThinOS 2306
Supported platforms: Dell Wyse 5070, 5470 and 5470 All-In-One Thin Clients, OptiPlex 3000 Thin Client.
Prerequisites
1. Ensure that WDA 14.6.9.x or later versions are installed on your Windows 10 IOT device. Ensure you run Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC-MR2 on Dell Wyse 5070, 5470, and 5470 All-In-One Thin Clients and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 on OptiPlex 3000 Thin Client.
2. Wyse Management Suite version 4.1 or later versions must be used to convert to ThinOS
3. Ensure you have connected the device to the external power source using the power adapter.
4. Ensure you have enough ThinOS Activation devices licenses on Wyse Management Suite 4.1 or later versions.
5. Create a group in Wyse Management Suite with a group token or create/edit your default group ThinOS 9.x Policy
6. The ThinOS Activation devices license number of Wyse Management Suite must be larger than the Windows 10 IoT device number. If it is not larger, you cannot create the Advanced Policy for conversion.
7. The Windows 10 IoT devices must be registered to Wyse Management Suite.
8. Ensure you have downloaded the Windows 10 IoT to ThinOS conversion image.
9. Extract the Windows 10 IoT to ThinOS conversion image to get the Conversion Installer file.
ThinOS_Conversion_Tool.exe and ThinOS image ThinOS_YYMM_9.x.pkg.
NOTE: The ThinOS image ThinOS_YYMM_9.x.pkg can be used for downgrade in the future.Steps
1. Copy the conversion Installer file “ThinOS_Conversion_Tool.exe” to the Wyse Management Suite 4.1 or later version server repository (Repository Location\repository\thinClientApps).
2. On the Wyse Management Suite page, go to Portal Administration > File Repository, select the repository, and click Sync Files. Wait for the synchronization to complete.
3. Go to Apps & Data > OS Image Repository > ThinOS 9.x, and click Add Firmware file.
4. Upload the ThinOS image ThinOS_YYMM_9.x.pkg.
5. Go to Apps & Data > App Policies > Thin Client, and click Add Advanced Policy.
6. Enter the policy name, select the group in which the Windows 10 IoT device has been registered, and select WinIoT as OS type. Check Show conversion packages.
7. Click Add app, and select the conversion installer file that was uploaded before from the drop-down menu.
8. Click Add app again, and select the ThinOS image file that was uploaded before from the drop-down menu.
9. Click Save.
NOTE: Ensure that the Apply Policy Automatically option is set to Do not apply automatically.
10. In the next window, click Yes to schedule a job.
11. Select Immediately in the Run drop-down menu in the App Policy Job window and click Preview.
12. Click Schedule.For more information, see the Dell ThinOS 2306 and 2303 Migration Guide at http://www.dell.com/support.
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